Trump convicted. Now what? (2024)

MidwestRadOnc said:

This is one of many hit pieces taking things out of context to paint somebody with inconvenient points with broad brush. He has been widely portrayed as a complete nutjob. Yet when you read his book and listen to him speak, this is not what you get. Not even close. You get someone extremely intelligent, calm, thoughtful, meticulously informed and able to recall enormous amounts of data at will. It becomes very obvious that people who regurgitate one-liners about him being a quack have never actually taken any time to consider his positions on their own, rather just parroting what their biased media sources are telling everyone about him.

There is a middle ground between "nobody should ever get any vaccine ever" and "all vaccines are perfect and should be mandated by force for all citizens and doubting this is a crime" We should be able to have discussions about trade-offs, personal choice, and vaccine injuries, especially when discussing novel vaccines with no long term data.

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I have read his words on my own. I've listened to him speak for hundreds of hours. There are a handful of facts I believe he gets wrong. Namely, that the HPV vaccine could cause cancer. The link he uses to support this claim is invalid, and I can't find any support for this on my own. (Yet, I can't tell you how many doctors, and even oncologists I encounter who believe that the HPV vaccine will completely eradicate cervical cancer -- i.e., that if you get the vaccine you then have a 0% chance of getting those specific HPV strains in your life -- it's lower but it's not zero, and it's scary how gullible some doctors are when it comes to repeating obviously false information about vaccines). Regardless, the harm that this individual has the potential to cause our country pales in comparison to the other two options. He cares about the environment and avoiding war. He cares about the national debt. He's a good guy with good intentions. If you can't see that and prefer Biden (who literally tried to use OSHA to force an injection with an experimental and liability-immune pharmaceutical product on 90 million Americans in one of the most amazing attempts at authoritarianism and violations of personal liberty in this history of the country) over him, you're beyond help.

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Ok. You are the expert here having listened to him speak for "hundreds of hours" and you say I'm taking him out of context.

Here's more context for one of those quotes:

“For many, many years, I think parents were so gaslighted, and they were scapegoated, and they were vilified and marginalized, so that even parents of kids who were very, very badly injured, knew what happened to their kid, but they were just reluctant to talk about it. And I think now those days are over,” Kennedy said.

“We – our job is to resist and to talk about it to everybody. If you’re walking down the street – and I do this now myself, which is, you know, I don’t want to do – I’m not a busybody. I see somebody on a hiking trail carrying a little baby and I say to him, ‘Better not get him vaccinated.’ And he heard that from me. If he hears it from 10 other people, maybe he won’t do it, you know, maybe he will save that child.”

Kennedy repeated later in the podcast: “If you’re one of 10 people that goes up to a guy, a man or a woman, who’s carrying a baby, and says, ‘Don’t vaccinate that baby,’ when they hear that from 10 people, it’ll make an impression on ‘em, you know. And we all kept our mouth shut. Don’t keep your mouth shut anymore. Confront everybody on it.”

I don't think I'm taking him out of context. What is the appropriate context here?

Do you also believe there is a link between vaccines and autism? Because it sure sounds like RFK Jr does.

I don't know if it's a reputable organization or not, but even this Autism Science Foundation issued a statement saying he has repeatedly "publicly promote(d) the discredited theory that vaccines cause autism".

I had none of these opinions 30min ago before I saw your post saying he wasn't anti-vax and decided to actually see what he's said.

Edit: Someone can be "extremely intelligent, calm, thoughtful, meticulously informed and able to recall enormous amounts of data at will" and still be an anti-vaxxer.